Wild Math in Rain City
Last night I had dinner with my witness, the former emergency room physician and math Ph.D. My plans to visit the Sun Yat-Sen Garden in the afternoon after our lunch at Horseshoe Bay had been thwarted by a downpour but it had stopped raining by dinner time. We went to the aptly-named Rain City Grill. Rain City Grill is the Restaurant Nora of Vancouver. There was no cod on the menu so I ordered halibut.
People who know me well will find it stunning that I signed up for a solo dinner with a math Ph.D. I am the one who avoided having to take remedial math at Barnard by a mere 1 point on the matriculation test. I am the one who calculated in my Astronomy class that the moon weighs 90 pound and travels 35 millimeters above the surface of the earth. I have to ask my excellent secretary to do percent calculations for me (I can't even do them on a calculator). I am the one for whom a tax return is an impressionist exercise that occurs shortly before an entertaining and entirely inscrutable, months-long correspondence with the IRS. ("Box 37a should have contained the number 12," they say. Fine -- then you do my tax return, smarty pants.)
Earlier that day I had actually asked my witness his thoughts about tax returns. He said that he, too, found them obtuse and that he always did his own returns because he found it challenging to try to figure out WHY the IRS wanted you to add 13.5 to box 19 only to ask you three pages later to remove it. He approaches his returns as a logic game -- "if they want you to subtract line 19 from line 34 then there MUST be a situation in which line 19 is bigger than line 34. What situation could that be?" Etc. He said it lead him into an interesting philosophical rumination on the imaginary financial lives of others.
I learned more about his approach to math at dinner. I started with the basics. "Why do you like math?" "I think it's wild!" he said. "When I was young, I realized that 2+3 = 5 but that 3+2 also equals 5. It didn't matter which way you added up the numbers, the answer was always 5. And that's true no matter how long your list of numbers is. Addition is bi-directional! That's wild!" "I suppose that's true," I said.
Then he said he thought it was very satisfying to add up some numbers and get an answer and then to add them up several more times and always get the same answer. I said that did sound satisfying but that I could only speculate because that had never happened to me. Every time I add up a set of numbers more than once I get an entirely different answer each time. Sometimes I get 31. Sometimes I get 29. Sometimes I get 12. You see the problem. How do you know which one is right?
Instead of looking at me like I was an idiot, he said, "Ah, well, it sounds like no-one has ever taught you the trick of casting out nines." "That is most definitely true." So he taught me this trick and it didn't seem to have anything to do with the number nine but it is a way of figuring out whether you got the right answer. "You're kidding me -- all this time there was a TRICK to make sure you were RIGHT and NO-ONE EVER TOLD ME THIS?" Education today…..And it works for multiplication as well as addition.
We played more math games and they were all indeed "wild" and my witness became very animated and excited and after each game he would sit back in his chair with wide eyes and an impish grin and say, "isn't that WILD!" There was one where you did something with even integers and something else with odd integers and you kept going for a while until your paper was all covered up with numbers and it turned out you would always arrive eventually at the number 1. He said no-one has ever ended up with anything other than 1. Euclid figured this out, back in the day. He said, "whether you can end up with something other than 1 is still an open question in math." I looked at him, stunned. "Is this what math Ph.Ds do all day? Doing this over and over again to see if they come up with something other than 1?" The answer is yes, basically. Since the time of Euclid. I suggested it might be time to call it a day on that particular open question.
Which lead us to the discussion of which came first, math or nature -- math describes nature -- but we humans came up with it -- so how ironic that we just happened to have come up with a number system that also works in nature -- creepy -- WILD! -- if that's the case, why do we have to teach math -- if the concept of the number 2 is "natural," then how come we do not emerge from the womb able to do arithmetic -- you can't teach biology after all -- no, of course, you can't teach someone to sweat…. Etc.
Somehow in there we discussed how there is no such thing as sea level. Or rather, there is such a thing as sea level but it's different everywhere. The ocean on the west side of the Panama canal is six feet higher than the ocean on the east side. And that's true all around the world. Has to do with winds. So I came up with "Kim's Rule," "Sea level is only constant if you happen to be at sea." He thought that was pretty good.
My expert was happy to chat away for quite some time about Wild Math. The restaurant started to empty. It made me think maybe not everyone was interested in this. I said, "Do you find there are a lot of people in Vancouver with whom you can have this kind of discussion about math?" "No."
Then I asked him what the point of math was. WHY sit around in a room trying to come with an answer other than 1.
He said, "Well, that's part of the problem. That's why I went back to Harvard to become an emergency room physician."
There was a lot more to our dinner conversation of course, but that will give you the gist.
Under the Baobab Tree
Friday, July 08, 2011
Thursday, July 07, 2011
Visiting Vancouver
I am once again in Canadia. This time I'm on the West Coast, in Vancouver. I deplaned into an empty airport, as all airports seem to be in this basically unpopulated country. No people. No noise. No nothing. It is a beautiful empty airport. Inside it one walks through a little ecosystem with screeching loons and tall totems and a rain forest. On the walk to customs one passes several other large totems. At baggage claim, totems. Right outside of baggage claim is a huge totem guarding the parking lot. At the airport exit, a totem.
I rented a car and drove into town. There is no highway to Vancouver from the airport. One drives through a dingy neighborhood called Richmond, which smells like sushi, then over various bodies of water, and then one is in town. The architecture is identical to that of late- to post-dot-com San Francisco. A form of architecture I despise. My firm's old office in San Francisco was built in that style and we had to move out because, among other things, the floors were too flimsy to support real desks, etc.
It was a warm sunny day in Vancouver yesterday and it shocked the citizenry. The Canadians were wearing shorts, which I thought inadvisable. And sandals, a form of footwear to which they are unaccustomed, judging from their walking style.
I had dinner at the hotel bar, looking out over the water. I ordered something called "sablefish" and an unoaked, Canadian chardonnay. I tried to entertain the bartender by dropping fascinating facts on him, such as:
- At any given moment, 500,000 people are in the air.
- Of all the people in the world who have ever reached the age of 65, 2/3 of them are alive right now.
- The largest producer of quinoa is Peru.
- Ocean-going fish contain more Omega 3s than river fish.
- Thirty percent of all clinical trials for marketed anti-depressants fail.
Ha! Why didn't you say so? I know lots and lots about cod. I demonstrated:
- it's good luck to eat cod on New Year' Eve
- adolescent cods are called haddock
- cods eat crabs
- Newfoundland has a cod stamp
- lots of fishes called cods are actually groupers (see, e.g., coral cod, reef cod, rock cod),
- the Vikings traveled with dried cod
- William Pitt the Elder called cod 'British Gold"
After dinner I went to sleep and then got up this morning and went to have breakfast with my co-counsel who is from Alabama and his 10-year-old son, Jake. Jake was delightful though I thought he did not approach the buffet with the gusto and vigor that I would have, had I ordered the buffet (I ordered the buttermilk pancakes). When he came back with a dull, unemotional looking plate, I took him back up there and heaped it back up with sausage and salmon and cheeses, etc. He said he liked it all. He had just been in Turkey with his father (my co-counsel) and so I asked him what he thought of the food. "I really liked the pizza," he said. I told him that on his trip to Vancouver with his father he should make a rule to eat something new at each meal, or, if there was literally nothing new on the menu, something that his mother would be unlikely to make for him at home. His father approved of all this, of course. "See, Jake -- what have I been telling you. Miss Kim is right."
All three of us then drove out to West Vancouver, which is West of Vancouver, to meet with an expert witness who lives in a tiny house way up on a steep mountain. I should mention that the mountains in Vancouver are very steep. I don't think I've ever seen mountains this steep. And the trees are very tall. Jake sat quietly and read a book while we interviewed the witness, who is an FDA expert and also a math Ph.D and also a computer programmer. He had little boxes in his study that had labels that said things like "Mystery Hardware" and "Mysterious Nuts & Bolts." He once wrote a computer program that counted down the days until George W. Bush would be out of office. And he was also an emergency room physician. Almost forgot that.
He said he made databases and stuff and so I asked him if he had a recipe database. He said yes and that I could download it from his website. I asked him if it could tell me what to cook if I told it that all I had in the fridge were an onion, a fig, and a cod, let's say. He said I could sort it by ingredient. I asked him if it could come with me to the grocery store and tell me what other ingredients I needed to buy if I saw a yummy cod and wanted to make some sort of miso-sauce reduction with blanched zucchini confit (for example). He said no. I asked him if it could also tell me how much zucchini I already had in my kitchen and thus did not really need to buy anymore just for the cod confit. He said no. I said that sounded like a rather useless recipe database.
The expert also introduced me to an amazing artist named Peter Milton. I will write more about him tomorrow. And he used an excellent phrase that I had never heard before and likely won't again-- he was describing how to run a particular type of clinical trial and he said, "imagine you are trying to study dueling pistols...." I liked that. At one point his coffee pot beeped. He said, "the coffee is telling me that it no longer considers itself fresh."
Then it was time for lunch. We went to Horseshoe Bay -- a vertical semi-circular plunge into the Pacific that manages to squeeze into its narrowness three massive ferries (one carries 500 cars) that go from the mainland to Vancouver Island. It is creepy vertical -- granite straight down from very far up a high mountain covered in Fraser pines to who knows where in the center of the earth.
Jake was still with us of course and he ordered hot chicken wings. I told him this violated his new food rule. He said that was true, it did, so he changed his order and asked for his chicken wings to come with Thai sauce.
I ordered cod. Something called a "ling cod." (Not really a cod at all, as it turns out -- so confusing.)
On the way back to town after we dropped off our expert, Jake said he thought he might like to go on a gastronomic tour of the country of his choosing with me as his chaperone. This is what I have promised my nieces and my nephew for when they graduate from high school. The rule is we go to any country the child chooses but that upon arrival, the child must eat the local cuisine and not order pizza in Turkey, for example.
Jake selected Greenland.
Wednesday, March 16, 2011
This morning a black Lincoln town car picked me up in Madison and drove me to Middleton for my meetings. Middleton is on the west bank of Lake Mendota and it claims that it, too, was voted the Best Place to Live in 2003.
I arrived at the manufacturing facility where my meetings were being held. Across the street was a industrial brewery. Next door was a Midas muffler suppler (not customer service place, the supplier). There were piles of black snow in the parking lots of these one story industrial buildings. The driver said, "are you sure this is the place?" Oh yes! This looks just right!
I walked in to the corrugated tin temporary-looking "office" building and walked into the coffee room where I saw three men. One nice big burly manly man and two scrawny men. I said, "ah, you must be my men?" They said they were. The manly man was the general manager of the manufacturing facility, scrawny man A was another lawyer, scrawny man B was a scientist. I asked the manly man, "Why is a Middleton a separate town from Madison and which was here first?" He did not know. I started looking for half-and-half for my coffee and he directed me to the non-dairy creamer. "How can you be in Wisconsin and serve me non-dairy creamer?" He said that was a good point and he hadn't thought of that before. He smiled like Santa Claus the whole time. He kind of looked like Santa Claus too, if Santa Claus were still in his mid-40s. I liked him very much.
Santa Claus looked out the window and saw someone coming across the parking lot. "This must be the fourth person you're waiting for? I'm guessing because he's in a suit and carrying a skinny suitcase which isn't normal around here." It was indeed our Fourth Man, another lawyer. He quickly removed his tie.
I kept chattering on about Middleton and what I had learned about Madison yesterday. I described my "Thank you, but I'm having butter" refrigerator magnet. I talked about the Dairy Queen in her milk-colored dress. I said Wisconsin earth is very black. He said, "yes! Our earth is very black. In fact, the next town to the West is called Black Earth, Wisconsin!" I said the place was practically swimming in agricultural products. I said I had consumed "locally sourced mustard" the night before at dinner, which was very good. "Ah! Mustard! Do you like mustard?" Santa Claus asked? Apparently there is a Mustard Museum in Middleton. I am SO disappointed that I didn't know that before because I would have gone there in an instant. I feel cheated.
We took our non-dairy creamer and went upstairs where we locked ourselves in a conference room for the next 8 hours. People came in to talk to us about a number of things mainly having to do with some Western Blot results. Our scientists taught us all about Western Blots and then we looked at a bunch of digital photos of Western Blots and we learned that they are washed in milk and then some sort of horse radish concoction and then they are laminated and pasted into a book. We looked at all the books. We learned everything there was to know about how to perform and read a Western Blot test.
We interviewed four separate people all about the blots. As one of us lawyers began to fade the other would pick it up and keep asking about blots. We asked about failed blots, successful blots, good blots, bad blots, missing blots, super-charged blots, wasted blots, and destroyed blots. At one point when I was leading the questioning -- the topic was proper methods for destroying failed blots -- I said something like, "so, you get a bad blot back and you toss it, destructamundo, and then you redo the sample, or the vial, or whatever you call it, right?" I turned to our scientists and said, to the side with a slight wave of my hand, "am I using the right terminology here?" meaning sample versus vial, of course. He looked at me and said, "destructamundo? sure."
We had lunch brought in and I ate four chocolate cookies the size of my head and one vegetarian sandwich (frowned upon in Wisconsin)
The room got hotter and hotter. Our "interviewees" got more and more technical. At this point we were talking about centrifuges and elutions and ELISA assays and prions. The room got hotter. Way hot. The receptionist came in and said my car was waiting to take me home. We finally stopped.
We walked across the hall to Santa Claus's office and said, "Okay, we're done." Done? he said? "Yes, we're all blotted out. Totally blotto." I guess he hears that all the time because he didn't laugh. He had an empty container of "mixed nuts" on his cabinet and I asked him if that was symbolic. He explained that people gave him empty "mixed nuts" containers all the time and while I was starting to giggle he said he kept bullets in them. Oh. Don't mess around with a manly Wisconsin man. He is a "competitive pistol shooter." I made some grammar jokes. "Are the pistols competitive? Or are YOU competitive?" Santa Claus told me he'd tell me all about it when I came back to visit the Middleton Mustard Museum. Our scientists laughed pretty hard at the competitive pistols and mixed nut containers.
I gave my a client a ride to the airport in my car and the whole way we talked to the driver about the Middleton Mustard Museum. Turns out he was from Osh Kosh. "Gosh! Osh Kosh!" I said. No response. ?! I asked him if Osh Kosh was on a lake. He said yes, Lake Winnebago. I asked him if Lake Winnebago was named after the RV or vice versa. He said neither, it was named after the Indian tribe. I asked him how big it was. He did not know. He said, 'that's pretty lame, I should know." I asked him if he could see across it. Yes. "So then it's less than 7 miles wide." "How do you know that?" he said. "The horizon is seven miles away so if it were wider you couldn't see across it." I have no idea if this is really true but I heard it somewhere once and amazingly every time I pull out this fact about how far away the horizon is, I turn out to be right. My driver looked on his GPS and said, "wow, you're right, it's 6.3 miles wide." How long is it? I asked. "Gosh! I don't know that either!" He said. So I continued -- is it more than 7 miles long? yes. Is it long like an eggplant or long like a baguette? "It's not that long, it has bumps. Like a pear," he said. A Bartlett pear or a Japanese pear? Silence. "Would you say it is more of a gourd shape?" Yes! It's a gourd shape. "You really know your lakes," he said.
So that settles that.
And as luck would have it, the Madison-Middleton-airport-Madison round trip means that I have now circumnavigated Lake Mendota. My work here is done.
P.S. My Dad reports that today is the anniversary of James Madison's birthday -- 1751.
Tuesday, March 15, 2011
My grandfather was born in Astoria, NY, and learned to fly in the 1930s on a big grassy field on Flushing Bay that is now called LaGuardia Airport. He married a beautiful, tall, woman with dark hair and green eyes (my grandmother), whom he met working on the newsletter for St. George's Episcopal Church in Flushing. Then WWII came and he joined the brand new Army Air Corps and went to fly bombing raids out of North Africa. He was a pilot. He lost his entire crew one day when he sat out a training mission due to sand fly fever -- his crew went without him and was shot out of the sky.
After the war, he went to Madison, Wisconsin, on the GI bill with his young wife. He rowed for the crew team on Lake Mendota, cruised around the lake shores and the beautiful deep green farm lands in some big boat of an American-made car, occasionally went to class, and worked as a short-order cook in a cafeteria for the huge numbers of veterans at the university on the GI bill. In January of his first year in Madison, his wife gave birth to their first child, a boy, my Dad. The family story is that someone offered Grandpa a good deal on the cost of the birth if he would let the medical school students watch. So, he would claim in his later years, around the family Thanksgiving table, that my Dad was born in a giant medical school theatre with droves of red-faced Wisconsin youths looking on. My grandmother didn't know anything about it until it was over. She never forgave him.
Sixty-five years later I find myself here in Madison to check out a manufacturing facility that makes thrombin out of ground bovine lungs.
Madison is a little town built on an isthmus between two big, beautiful lakes (Mendota and Menona). The isthmus bends a little bit to make a very flat "V" shape of land. The state capitol building is at the point of the V. To the east along the isthmus are big old houses, long straight avenues, a big Kraft Oscar Meyer plant, and the Dane County Regional Airport. To the west along the isthmus is State Street which goes downhill and dead ends at the University which continues up Bascom Hill, which is a pretty steep little knoll on top of which stands Bascom Hall. It is at the same elevation as the Capitol building. They are the two high points of town. State Street is a walking street, closed to traffic. When the snow is down, you can sled down the Capitol hill straight down State Street all the way to the bottom where you will run into people sledding down from the top of Bascom Hill in the opposite direction. I imagine that sort of thing has been going on since the town was built, right before the Civil War.
To the north of it all is Lake Mendota which at the moment is frozen solid all the way across. My cab driver said that people cut across the lake on skis in the winter but don't skate because the ice is too bumpy. There is ice fishing and ice sailing. To the south is Lake Menona about which I know nothing.
The people here sound like the Norwegian Lutherans on A Prairie Home Companion. The local men are big and jolly and have red cheeks and solid frames and Viking-type hair and wear red and black plaid shirts and work boots and Carharts and smoke foul smelling cigarettes. My cabbie was this archetypal Wisconsin Man. I know he was an Archetype because he kept popping up all over town. The same man. I swear. He was my cabbie. Then later I saw him working as the cashier in the University book store. Then after that he ran over to the Madison Museum of Contemporary Art, where he was a docent, and later still he was working his fourth job at the State Historical Museum.
Madison is beautiful. So is Wisconsin. I spent four hours walking all around the University and the museums and learned the following:
- Madison is named after James Madison. Duh.
- Wisconsin used to be called New France. Duh.
- The soil here is black black black. Literally. Black. Not like the red clay or brown earth we have in Maryland.
- The cows are black and white. Never brown. Ever.
- John Muir went to the University here and this is apparently where he first fell in love with trees, etc. There is a memorial to him on a promontory over the lake on top of Bascom Hill.
- I have seen only white people since I arrived. Although a card in my room tells me that "Mohammed" is my "maid."
- The first use of the big field that is now the football field at Camp Randall was to recruit soldiers for the Civil War. Later it was a prison for Confederate soldiers. Later it was a drilling ground for WWI soldiers. In my grandfather's time it was used for ROTC. Now it is The Home of the Badgers.
- There's an entire book devoted to the Rock Shards of Central Wisconsin. It's a field guide to Indian spear heads and the like.
- The University seems devoted to water. There's a big ornate Victorian red brick building right by the water with big white brick letters on it that say Science Hall. Between that and the lake are two separate "water laboratories" and all the chairs at the student union along the lake were donated by a "water scientist" of some renown (don't remember his name). The airport has a big satellite photo of the little Madison isthmus surrounded by the lakes that happen at that moment to be suffering from a massive algae bloom that shows up as fluorescent green on the picture.
- There are lots of excellent second hand bookstores on State Street. I went into two. I saw all sorts of fabulous books and I almost bought a bunch until I remembered I already had all those same books at home.
- Students dress abominably and look too young to be allowed out without supervision. They are pupae. Without all their fingers and toes yet.
- I almost bought a book in the State Historical Museum that tells you how to distill almost anything from almost any kind of vegetable.
- I did buy a refrigerator magnet that says, "Thank you, but I'm having butter."
- The men in Madison, even the non-locals, are more manly than the men in DC. They have muscles and jaws and shoulders and they are weathered and alert and they speak in complete sentences.
- Madison was voted the Best Place to Live in America in 2003.
It must have been a strange thing for Grandpa to come here after flying bombing raids out of Northern Africa. So quiet and still and bucolic. A town buried between two hills that are between two green lakes, under a green tree canopy under a big empty sky. It's like the Shire in Middle Earth. In the late 1940s, it was a village with some university people on the top of one hill and some politicians on the top of the other hill and students and farmers and GIs goofing off and messing around on the lake in between the two, eating wholesome Wisconsin cheese and fruits and grains and swimming in the clear lakes and walking in the beautiful deep green mossy woods and bobbing for apples and everything else. You can imagine them dancing to big band music on summer evenings, and watching movies in the Orpheum Movie Theatre on State Street, and shopping at the Woolworth's and the Sears and the Kresge's Dry Goods that were also on State Street. The Wisconsin Dairy Queen parade went down State Street every year, with the Most Beautiful Girl in Wisconsin crowned the Dairy Queen and dressed up in a beautiful, shimmering, milk-colored gown. All the many churches are on State Street, too. In fact, there really wouldn't be much reason to leave State Street (I haven't yet).
Maybe that's why Grandpa came here.
Monday, February 07, 2011
I am in Austin, Texas, at a place that, were I a golfer, would mean something to me. I am not a golfer and so the best way to describe where I am is a cross between The Grove Park Inn in Asheville, NC, and one of any number of interchangeable Marriott properties in Orlando, Florida. The place is huge. It is surrounded by 5 golf courses, each of which is apparently famous. It has a spa for "the wives." It has a shop where you can buy cowboy boots and Callaway clubs. Everyone looks retired and no-one is my age.
I am here to attend the International Conference on Drug Development which takes place every year in Austin. So tucked away in one tiny corner of The Number 1 Golf Destination in Texas are a handful of FDA officials (including the Commissioner), a handful of big pharma executives, a handful of biotech executives, a very nice man from The Gates Foundation, a handful of people from the UT-Austin College of Pharmacy, and me. I am the only lawyer. I am the only girl. I am the only one not saying anything. My fellow conference goers are all scientists and they are one-up-ing each other on their qualifications. "Oh yeah? Well I'm an epidemiologist AND a pathologist!" "Really? I discovered levaquin BEFORE I cured every African infant of river blindness!" Etc. I am sitting in the back next to the tech support guys squinting at the slides that show all kinds of disgusting diseases and little blobs of amoebas and microbes. I practice trying to say the long complicated scientific words silently to myself and then wait for the speaker to say them too so I can see if I was right.
The speakers have no idea there is a non-scientist among them. Today a Pakistani pharmacometricist (I think that's what he said he was) waved out at the audience and said, "and, of course, you all know the story of Fix-it-All (chemical name, fixitallupomycin), so I don't have to remind you all that it was the first inverted-purple-goo-eating-spiral-form-parthenogenetic-doo-hickey to treat pediatric piano leg syndrome." That's what it sounded like to me, anyway. I took notes feverishly like I haven't done since college. Scratch that -- I never took notes in college. I took notes feverishly like I haven't done since I was a baby lawyer.
I learned a few things about drug development -- such as the fact that FDA is considering opening a review division devoted exclusively to neglected tropical diseases -- but I was surprised to learn how many other useful, sort of mundane, and unexpected facts. Such as:
- The Chile earthquake moved the Earth's mass enough to permanently shorten the length of each day.
- The first quantum machine nano-thing is so small it can never really sit still, from a molecular perspective, and so is literally in two places at once.
- We had the first successful full facial transplant in 2010. Somehow I missed that.
- Health care reform and government settlements combined will cost the pharmaceutical industry $5.4 billion in 2011.
- Every dollar a pharmaceutical company spends on those annoying TV ads generates $4.20 in sales.
- FDA has approved only two new antibiotics since 2008.
- The last new TB treatment was approved 40 years ago.
- 97 out of every 100 newborns this coming decade will be born in a developing country.
- Unipolar depression is number 3 on The Gates Foundation's list of diseases that impose the highest public health burden on low- and middle-income countries. Number 9 is road accidents.
- 86 percent of all unipolar depression trials fail. 50 percent of those trials are in drugs already on the market.
- There is a disease that has a"'prevalence of zero." The FDA epidemiologists thought that was very funny and laughed uproariously about their scientific joke. (The lawyer equivalent is the story about the lawyer who demanded that his associate find him the pattern jury instruction for promissory estoppel. HA! HA! HA!) But the disease that has a prevalence zero is not very funny -- it's terrorism-induced anthrax.
- What is Muckle-Wells Syndrome?
- What is Maroteaux-Lamy Syndrome?
- What is Prader-Willi Syndrome?
- What does the Novartis Institute for Tropical Diseases in Singapore really do and how do I found out if it needs any help?
- Master the topic of CMS J codes (consider delegating this one)
- Look up the African Vaccines Regulatory Forum
- Learn more about MenAfriVac, the first vaccine ever developed in the third world (meningitis in the Sahel).
I would bring someone else along with me to do the science part, of course. Maybe the Pakistani pharmacometricist.
I have two more days of this so think how much I'll have learned by then!
P.S. There is no pattern jury instruction for a promissory estoppel claim. You are not entitled to a jury at all.
Friday, January 21, 2011
One Day, Three Meals, Two Old Friends, and 40 New Ones
It started on Tuesday morning. I woke in DC to 1.25 inches of thick ice coating everything. The ice was so thick on my windshield that I broke two prongs off my ice scraper trying to make the car drivable. I scratched a little view hole in the front, a little view hole in the back, and drove to Union Station with the windows open so I could see out the sides. I left the car at Union Station still all covered in ice. I hoped it would melt.
I met my colleague in Penn Station in NY and we were dismayed to find the rain pouring down outside. We went to the taxi line. The powers that be have removed our favorite "secret" taxi line on 33rd Street that had a nice plastic covering. Now the only taxi lines are on 7th Avenue and 8th Avenue in the open, no protection from the weather. And they are long lines. We had no choice but to go stand out in the pouring rain. We just stood there, getting very very wet. There was nothing to do. My colleague was wearing heels and stockings and she was very miserable. I was wearing knee high boots but I was still very miserable. Our hair flattened and began to drip. We looked at each other, grimly. I said, "I can't really believe this. Doesn't it seem like someone should have done something about this by now? This must happen all the time." My colleague agreed. "Yes. How can they let us just stand out here in the rain. It rains all the time in NYC." I said, "where are the station employees or something who would fix this? Where are the little men." We continued to stand glumly in silence.
By the time we got to our client we were utterly and completely soaked and frankly, we looked horrible. Four hours later we were done with out witness and we went back outside on the street and….stood in the rain again. We had ordered a car but it had not arrived. I refused to walk to my hotel in the rain. My colleague refused to do anything in the rain. Stasis. By the time I did get to my hotel, I was again totally soaked.
But my hotel was a marvel! It has only been open one month in NYC and it was absolutely splendiferous -- I got a nice guided tour of my room which included a huge bathroom mirror with a flat screen TV embedded in it that you didn't see at all until it turned on. The bedroom had a 3D TV which was a little weird. I was very very happy. Not only that, but I had failed to pack sleeping gear so I walked to Macy's to find they were having a 40 percent off pajama sale. Hooray! Brand new fabulous pajamas in my fabulous hotel room. I was much happier than my colleague who was still trying to get back to DC in the ice and rain.
The next day it was still raining but I did not mind. I had a long lovely breakfast with a very old college friend in my hotel -- in a vast, shiny restaurant with windows overlooking Fifth Avenue. It is very rare for NY hotels to have restaurants with windows. We had a fabulous time. I ate buttermilk pancakes and she had salmon eggs benedict and we gabbed away about everything from the new generation's relationship with feminism to our changing relationship to work as we enter our 40s. She told me that our favorite Cuban restaurant up at school had closed. This depressed me tremendously. I stared at her agog. "No more La Rosita's?" No. "What do people at Columbia eat, then?!" We ate mounds of toast and drank pots of coffee. The staff was fabulous. We stayed until almost 11.
Then I hiked 20 blocks up town (in the drizzly rain) to have lunch with an old law school friend. He emerged from his office building and said, "you look the same." I said, "so do you." This friend of mine and I had studied for the bar together after law school and our routine then had been go to Bar Bri class, eat lunch at a Chinese restaurant, go to a Barnes & Noble and study the rest of the afternoon, have dinner at a Chinese restaurant, play tennis at night because it was too hot in NC to play tennis during the day, then we'd jump in the pool around 11 or midnight, cool off, then start all over the next day. So there we are standing on Park Avenue in the rain and he says, "what do you want for lunch? Chinese?" " Of course," I said.
So we dawdled over lunch until 3 p.m. -- talking about our changing relationship to work as we enter our 40s and the struggle to find time to do thinks for fun. Also, the odd professionalism of the younger generation. My friend's version -- "So, you see all this stuff here that you did?" "Yes," says the minion. "Well, it's wrong. All of it." "Uh-huh," says the minion. "So, you need to go do it all over again. But correctly." "Okay!" says the minion. My friend scratches his head. "Where's the shame?" I say. We nod sagely. He talks about all the neighborhoods around NY and how he doesn't feel like he fits in to any of them but has to live in certain places for his kids' schools. "Those people aren't like us, Kim." "I suppose not," I say. "Where are the people like us?" he says. "I don't know -- what are people like us called?" "I don't know." Sigh. So we talk instead about books and painting and we practice speaking Chinese to each other and then we leave and go get big mugs of tea and walk around in the rain and then it's time to be done with lunch.
I walk the 20 blocks back to my hotel and on the way I visit the renovated Morgan Library. This is a fabulous institution -- Pierpont Morgan's library and his annex and his art collection. The building is fabulous. His library has 14,000 rare books and you can stand in the library and look at them. I saw several editions of Bleak House, the collected works of Stendhal, all of Thackeray, etc. He also has a Gutenberg Bible and one of the original copies of the Declaration of Independence. And he has original manuscripts by Bach and Chopin and the original galley edits of John Milton and original Babar the Elephant drawings and a huge collection of children's book illustrations and Degas prints and all sorts of eclectic lovely things. He has a folio version of Chaucer open to "Whan that apprill with the showres sought…." I intoned it quietly to myself and people thought maybe I was the little crazy lady in the wet coat and the flat hair. He has beautiful botanicals of a scientific expedition to the Caribbean circa the time of Sir Francis Drake.
His study is magnificent and is an excellent model for every library that people nowadays paint in "Library Red." Morgan's red though is original Venetian silk damask paper with a lily and mountain design. His coffered ceiling was shipped piece by piece from Venice in a boat. His desk was built by hand for him in London. The glass in the windows were gathered in bits and pieces from mountain sides in Italy somewhere.
I love the Morgan library. I went to the Morgan Library book shop and bought several postcards of hilarious children's illustrations, including the famous etching of Rudyard Kipling's elephant getting his trunk stretched out by the crocodile in the Great Grey Green Greasy Limpopo River All Set About with Fever Trees. Also a lovely painting of the owl and the pussycat sitting together in a boat, clearly mightily irritated with one another. And a girl giraffe saying to a boy giraffe, "I've had it up to HERE with you!" And a big sign that says, "Stop and Think" and two New Yorker characters standing in front of it saying, "It kind of makes you Stop and Think, doesn't it….?" And a set of cards that say Happy Holidays and depict a table at which the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, The Statute of Liberty, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and a Hallowe'en Witch are all seated, with a plumb turkey walking in front of them.
Then I walked 20 blocks back up town to a dinner with 40 people I had never met and who turned out to be riotously funny. It was a dinner to celebrate the fact that one client of mine had purchased another client of mine. The two CEOs were there and they were hysterical. The BDO Siedman guys were there, including James the Italian Accountant from Brooklyn, who was hilarious. And a baby lawyer who worked on the corporate side who was hilarious and turned out to be in the same bowling league with James the Accountant. And two amiable chemists who turned out to know all about my Great Uncle Tom's discovery of colorfast dye for nylon, which was tres helpful during WWII what with all those camouflaged parachutes and all. And they had all grown up in Flushing, too, how funny. And the head deal lawyer is a semi-professional show jumper on the side so we traded pictures of our respective horses and I told everyone that men who show jump are kind of like professional ice skaters -- you know, not really that manly -- where people who foxhunt are like Bode Miller and Peekabo Street and other extreme skiers. You can imagine how that went over. And Doug the CFO who was so jealous of our table (which was the best table) that he and one of the CEOs crashed it during the dessert course. The CEO kicked James the Accountant out of his chair and drank his coffee and ate his cake, all with great gusto. Doug the CFO switched his entrée with my entrée and so I sat with the other CEO and learned he was tragically unhappy and had no friends and not time to read or paint or do anything fun….so I reprised my conversation with my law school buddy and voila -- CEO number 2 was so happy he drove me home to my hotel and bought me a ginormous bottle of Carbernet. One of the corporate guys decided I was so funny that I should move to NY and go on stage. I am pretty funny some times.
The next day, as I trained home to DC, James the Accountant and the Baby Lawyer and the CFO and CEO number 1 and CEO number 2 and I all decided on email that we need to go neon bowling the next time I'm in NY. I'm thinking of bringing my law school friend along for kicks and giggles and to prove that making 40 new friends in one night isn't that hard after all -- it just means that every now and then you have to not go home to Scarsdale.
Because it turns he will never find the "people like us" that he is looking for in Scarsdale -- we are not in Scarsdale. We are in fancy hotels and the renovated Morgan Library and cozy NYC Chinese restaurants and at raucous, gregarious financial dinners and on horseback careening around the countryside.
At least that's my perspective.
I haven't written about a trip to NY recently because trips to NY have been so frequent in the last 5 years that they don't really qualify as "trips" and would be stunningly dull to write about. But my trip this week was entertaining enough to warrant a write up.
I met my colleague in Penn Station in NY and we were dismayed to find the rain pouring down outside. We went to the taxi line. The powers that be have removed our favorite "secret" taxi line on 33rd Street that had a nice plastic covering. Now the only taxi lines are on 7th Avenue and 8th Avenue in the open, no protection from the weather. And they are long lines. We had no choice but to go stand out in the pouring rain. We just stood there, getting very very wet. There was nothing to do. My colleague was wearing heels and stockings and she was very miserable. I was wearing knee high boots but I was still very miserable. Our hair flattened and began to drip. We looked at each other, grimly. I said, "I can't really believe this. Doesn't it seem like someone should have done something about this by now? This must happen all the time." My colleague agreed. "Yes. How can they let us just stand out here in the rain. It rains all the time in NYC." I said, "where are the station employees or something who would fix this? Where are the little men." We continued to stand glumly in silence.
By the time we got to our client we were utterly and completely soaked and frankly, we looked horrible. Four hours later we were done with out witness and we went back outside on the street and….stood in the rain again. We had ordered a car but it had not arrived. I refused to walk to my hotel in the rain. My colleague refused to do anything in the rain. Stasis. By the time I did get to my hotel, I was again totally soaked.
But my hotel was a marvel! It has only been open one month in NYC and it was absolutely splendiferous -- I got a nice guided tour of my room which included a huge bathroom mirror with a flat screen TV embedded in it that you didn't see at all until it turned on. The bedroom had a 3D TV which was a little weird. I was very very happy. Not only that, but I had failed to pack sleeping gear so I walked to Macy's to find they were having a 40 percent off pajama sale. Hooray! Brand new fabulous pajamas in my fabulous hotel room. I was much happier than my colleague who was still trying to get back to DC in the ice and rain.
The next day it was still raining but I did not mind. I had a long lovely breakfast with a very old college friend in my hotel -- in a vast, shiny restaurant with windows overlooking Fifth Avenue. It is very rare for NY hotels to have restaurants with windows. We had a fabulous time. I ate buttermilk pancakes and she had salmon eggs benedict and we gabbed away about everything from the new generation's relationship with feminism to our changing relationship to work as we enter our 40s. She told me that our favorite Cuban restaurant up at school had closed. This depressed me tremendously. I stared at her agog. "No more La Rosita's?" No. "What do people at Columbia eat, then?!" We ate mounds of toast and drank pots of coffee. The staff was fabulous. We stayed until almost 11.
Then I hiked 20 blocks up town (in the drizzly rain) to have lunch with an old law school friend. He emerged from his office building and said, "you look the same." I said, "so do you." This friend of mine and I had studied for the bar together after law school and our routine then had been go to Bar Bri class, eat lunch at a Chinese restaurant, go to a Barnes & Noble and study the rest of the afternoon, have dinner at a Chinese restaurant, play tennis at night because it was too hot in NC to play tennis during the day, then we'd jump in the pool around 11 or midnight, cool off, then start all over the next day. So there we are standing on Park Avenue in the rain and he says, "what do you want for lunch? Chinese?" " Of course," I said.
So we dawdled over lunch until 3 p.m. -- talking about our changing relationship to work as we enter our 40s and the struggle to find time to do thinks for fun. Also, the odd professionalism of the younger generation. My friend's version -- "So, you see all this stuff here that you did?" "Yes," says the minion. "Well, it's wrong. All of it." "Uh-huh," says the minion. "So, you need to go do it all over again. But correctly." "Okay!" says the minion. My friend scratches his head. "Where's the shame?" I say. We nod sagely. He talks about all the neighborhoods around NY and how he doesn't feel like he fits in to any of them but has to live in certain places for his kids' schools. "Those people aren't like us, Kim." "I suppose not," I say. "Where are the people like us?" he says. "I don't know -- what are people like us called?" "I don't know." Sigh. So we talk instead about books and painting and we practice speaking Chinese to each other and then we leave and go get big mugs of tea and walk around in the rain and then it's time to be done with lunch.
I walk the 20 blocks back to my hotel and on the way I visit the renovated Morgan Library. This is a fabulous institution -- Pierpont Morgan's library and his annex and his art collection. The building is fabulous. His library has 14,000 rare books and you can stand in the library and look at them. I saw several editions of Bleak House, the collected works of Stendhal, all of Thackeray, etc. He also has a Gutenberg Bible and one of the original copies of the Declaration of Independence. And he has original manuscripts by Bach and Chopin and the original galley edits of John Milton and original Babar the Elephant drawings and a huge collection of children's book illustrations and Degas prints and all sorts of eclectic lovely things. He has a folio version of Chaucer open to "Whan that apprill with the showres sought…." I intoned it quietly to myself and people thought maybe I was the little crazy lady in the wet coat and the flat hair. He has beautiful botanicals of a scientific expedition to the Caribbean circa the time of Sir Francis Drake.
His study is magnificent and is an excellent model for every library that people nowadays paint in "Library Red." Morgan's red though is original Venetian silk damask paper with a lily and mountain design. His coffered ceiling was shipped piece by piece from Venice in a boat. His desk was built by hand for him in London. The glass in the windows were gathered in bits and pieces from mountain sides in Italy somewhere.
I love the Morgan library. I went to the Morgan Library book shop and bought several postcards of hilarious children's illustrations, including the famous etching of Rudyard Kipling's elephant getting his trunk stretched out by the crocodile in the Great Grey Green Greasy Limpopo River All Set About with Fever Trees. Also a lovely painting of the owl and the pussycat sitting together in a boat, clearly mightily irritated with one another. And a girl giraffe saying to a boy giraffe, "I've had it up to HERE with you!" And a big sign that says, "Stop and Think" and two New Yorker characters standing in front of it saying, "It kind of makes you Stop and Think, doesn't it….?" And a set of cards that say Happy Holidays and depict a table at which the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, The Statute of Liberty, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and a Hallowe'en Witch are all seated, with a plumb turkey walking in front of them.
Then I walked 20 blocks back up town to a dinner with 40 people I had never met and who turned out to be riotously funny. It was a dinner to celebrate the fact that one client of mine had purchased another client of mine. The two CEOs were there and they were hysterical. The BDO Siedman guys were there, including James the Italian Accountant from Brooklyn, who was hilarious. And a baby lawyer who worked on the corporate side who was hilarious and turned out to be in the same bowling league with James the Accountant. And two amiable chemists who turned out to know all about my Great Uncle Tom's discovery of colorfast dye for nylon, which was tres helpful during WWII what with all those camouflaged parachutes and all. And they had all grown up in Flushing, too, how funny. And the head deal lawyer is a semi-professional show jumper on the side so we traded pictures of our respective horses and I told everyone that men who show jump are kind of like professional ice skaters -- you know, not really that manly -- where people who foxhunt are like Bode Miller and Peekabo Street and other extreme skiers. You can imagine how that went over. And Doug the CFO who was so jealous of our table (which was the best table) that he and one of the CEOs crashed it during the dessert course. The CEO kicked James the Accountant out of his chair and drank his coffee and ate his cake, all with great gusto. Doug the CFO switched his entrée with my entrée and so I sat with the other CEO and learned he was tragically unhappy and had no friends and not time to read or paint or do anything fun….so I reprised my conversation with my law school buddy and voila -- CEO number 2 was so happy he drove me home to my hotel and bought me a ginormous bottle of Carbernet. One of the corporate guys decided I was so funny that I should move to NY and go on stage. I am pretty funny some times.
The next day, as I trained home to DC, James the Accountant and the Baby Lawyer and the CFO and CEO number 1 and CEO number 2 and I all decided on email that we need to go neon bowling the next time I'm in NY. I'm thinking of bringing my law school friend along for kicks and giggles and to prove that making 40 new friends in one night isn't that hard after all -- it just means that every now and then you have to not go home to Scarsdale.
Because it turns he will never find the "people like us" that he is looking for in Scarsdale -- we are not in Scarsdale. We are in fancy hotels and the renovated Morgan Library and cozy NYC Chinese restaurants and at raucous, gregarious financial dinners and on horseback careening around the countryside.
At least that's my perspective.
Wednesday, August 04, 2010
There's a World in Geese
I recently spent much of a work day and all of dinner with some North Dakota goose farmers and their Indian virologist. The goose farm is a family owned business that raises free-range, organic, all natural geese and then uses every part of the goose for commercial purposes. This has been going on since before World War II. They sell goose meat for eating, goose down for making into comforters and pillows, goose eggs for artists to paint into decorative Faberge-type things, etc. Their motto is "we sell everything but the honk." But now they have a new product to come from the goose -- goose antibodies that they think could cure everything from West Nile virus to Ebola.
The goose men all showed up in short-sleeved button down shirts embroidered with their multi-colored, mildly effeminate goose farm logo. They were big beefy North Dakota men. Their Indian virologist was very Indian indeed and had only been in North Dakota for six weeks and wasn't sure how he liked it yet. The beefy men told me their geese were happy; they are genetically engineered to be unable to fly so apparently they don't miss much of a normal goose's life. They are also genetically engineered to have very large breasts. Geese are pretty fatty naturally, I was told (more on this later), which is one reason goose foie gras is yummy. But as you can imagine, listening to these burly goose farmers talk about how wonderfully fatty their goose breasts were naturally amused me a great deal. As a colleague said later on hearing the story, "Ah! They sound like me! Can't fly, pretty fatty, and huge breasts!"
It won't surprise anyone who knows me to hear that I considered the prospect of 5 straight hours of goose-related chit chat to be an irresistible challenge. Not to mention the virology/Ebola overlay. So I thought I would share with you all the ornamental knowledge of geese and related matters that I acquired:
I said my experience with geese to date was negative. I was chased by an irate goose in college somewhere in the countryside. Considering that I went to college in New York City, I'm not quite sure how I ended up in the country-side, how I got there, why I was there, who I was with, etc. All I really remember was this big white goose chasing me and grabbing my pant leg. Very vicious. More recently, my big black horse Kona was attacked by a goose whilst walking in a mild-mannered way through a river and was quite traumatized by it. Kona is not a very brave horse to begin with and, to be honest, is somewhat easily traumatized, but still, not very nice of the goose. I said all this and the North Dakotans said, "those are wild geese. Our geese aren't wild. Domesticated geese make very good pets." "Outdoor pets, right?" I asked.
I asked whether it was true that geese mate for life. "Basically," was the response. "What does 'basically' mean? Until a better, younger goose comes along?" They chortled and said, "oh no, that's humans, not geese." Geese, they explained will be faithful until a mate dies or is lost, or something. At which point they "move on." Geese "get over it." Widowed geese can re-marry.
I asked why we don't eat goose eggs. "They are too big," was the answer. "How big?" "As big as seven chicken eggs." That's pretty big. I suggested someone could make an omelet for an entire family with only one goose egg, and wouldn't that be very economically. Maybe diners would like to offer goose egg scrambled eggs, etc. "No," they said, "goose eggs taste horrible." This surprised me coming from such fans of the goose. The reason is that geese, as mentioned above, are naturally very fatty and so their eggs contain vast amounts of lipids that when fried turn into lipid leather. "How about cakes, then" I said. Ah! Apparently the best and highest use of a goose egg is to make a cake -- goose eggs produce fabulously rich and velvety cake batter. The only problem is you need to make a really big cake. I, for one, have never seen a cake recipe that calls for the equivalent of 7 chicken eggs.
Geese lived to be 80 years old. Consider this if you are thinking of getting one as a pet.
None of the "down" things you buy in the average department store or linen store are made of goose down. "Down" pillows and comforters are made either of duck down, chicken down, or unmentionable fakes. Eiderdown is down from a specific kind of duck that lives only in Switzerland. A real goose down comforter costs approximately $1,000. As much as a mattress.
I asked if they would make be a real goose down comforter. "No." What?! They explained that a goose down comforter is only for very cold climates, like North Dakota and Lapland. If you try to sleep under a goose down comforter anywhere else you will sweat so much you will lose 100 percent of your body weight by morning and thus be invisible.
I proposed, instead, a goose down jacket. "No, you'd have to wear literally nothing else at all (due to body melting) which means you could never take the jacket off which means it wouldn't be very useful." Fine.
The North Dakotans did not realize that the Chesapeake Bay was a haven for wild geese. They were fascinated. I told them to read James Michener's Chesapeake, particularly the chapters told from the perspective of the geese.
The farmers confirmed that even domestic geese post a sentry to watch for enemies while everyone else eats.
I discussed the relationship between geese and foxhunting. I.e., geese are to be avoided. Some people string thin wires over their ponds to keep the geese from landing there. I've seen this especially up in the Green Spring Valley. It seems to work.
We turned to virology. They told me the story of how their flock was decimated in 2003 by West Nile Virus. Think about that, folks. "Can a goose really get bitten by a mosquito, what with all that impenetrable down, and all?" Yes, they said, but it's sort of irrelevant. A goose can get bitten by a mosquito on its eyelids. But the burly geese farmers had figured out that West Nile is not transmitted to avians by mosquitoes. They get it from their food supply. Apparently the State Veterinarian of North Dakota does not agree with them but nevertheless, these burly goose men vaccinated their entire flock by putting goose antibodies from their very own flock into the goose drinking water. 100 percent protection, apparently. This avoided them having to give a subcutaneous injection to each goose in the flock -- 100,000 or something. One man -- 100,000 geese. Bummer.
I learned that the Indian virologist hailed from Madras and that his wife hailed from Kenya. "How did you meet?" Ah, well, you see, at Kenyan independence, Kenya "repatriated" all the British to Britain. The Indian merchant families were considered "British" and so were shipped off to London. Both they and Britain were appalled. The Kenyan Indians had never been to England and did not consider themselves British and found it horribly cold and gloomy. The British thought they were freeing themselves of "colonials" and were shocked to find droves of "non-English" people coming back from all over Africa during the 60s. So Britain promptly "repatriated" the Kenyan Indians to India. Another foreign land to the Kenyan Indians but mildly preferable. From India, our virologist's wife made her way to the US for studies, as did he, and they met. Ta daa.
This lead to a conversation about World War I in Africa and how South African was an interesting place to follow the war because half the Afrikaners supported Germany and half of them supported Holland and therefore England. Tres complique.
Turns out the Indian virologist and I know many people in common from the pharmaceutical R&D world. This blew the goose farmers away. They consider their virologist to be a polite man from Madras who lived in Grand Forks and who can talk about antibodies and me to be some Washington lobbyist (which I'm not, of course). Not only did we know people in common but we have even worked on some of the same vaccines. And this was when I brought up Ebola -- "can you treat Ebola?" "Yes, oh yes, we could!" "How would you conduct a clinical trial?" I asked. You can't put people with Ebola on a placebo because they will surely die and there is no standard of care at the moment so basically would be impossible to do a controlled test."Yes, yes, that is indeed our difficulty. Very great difficulty." I told him I would think about it to see if I came up with any ideas.
The geese farmers concluded after all this that I may be "the smartest woman we have ever met." Not sure what that means coming from North Dakotan goose men. And I didn't feel like explaining to them that ornamental knowledge does not necessarily equal intelligence.
I'm sure there was more but that's what I remember at the moment. And you will be pleased to know that these people are all coming to DC again because I got them invited to the Second Annual Swine Flu Conference that is taking place next week at Dulles (an irony, no?). They agreed that the geese can help the people fight the pigs.
My work here is done.
I recently spent much of a work day and all of dinner with some North Dakota goose farmers and their Indian virologist. The goose farm is a family owned business that raises free-range, organic, all natural geese and then uses every part of the goose for commercial purposes. This has been going on since before World War II. They sell goose meat for eating, goose down for making into comforters and pillows, goose eggs for artists to paint into decorative Faberge-type things, etc. Their motto is "we sell everything but the honk." But now they have a new product to come from the goose -- goose antibodies that they think could cure everything from West Nile virus to Ebola.
The goose men all showed up in short-sleeved button down shirts embroidered with their multi-colored, mildly effeminate goose farm logo. They were big beefy North Dakota men. Their Indian virologist was very Indian indeed and had only been in North Dakota for six weeks and wasn't sure how he liked it yet. The beefy men told me their geese were happy; they are genetically engineered to be unable to fly so apparently they don't miss much of a normal goose's life. They are also genetically engineered to have very large breasts. Geese are pretty fatty naturally, I was told (more on this later), which is one reason goose foie gras is yummy. But as you can imagine, listening to these burly goose farmers talk about how wonderfully fatty their goose breasts were naturally amused me a great deal. As a colleague said later on hearing the story, "Ah! They sound like me! Can't fly, pretty fatty, and huge breasts!"
It won't surprise anyone who knows me to hear that I considered the prospect of 5 straight hours of goose-related chit chat to be an irresistible challenge. Not to mention the virology/Ebola overlay. So I thought I would share with you all the ornamental knowledge of geese and related matters that I acquired:
I said my experience with geese to date was negative. I was chased by an irate goose in college somewhere in the countryside. Considering that I went to college in New York City, I'm not quite sure how I ended up in the country-side, how I got there, why I was there, who I was with, etc. All I really remember was this big white goose chasing me and grabbing my pant leg. Very vicious. More recently, my big black horse Kona was attacked by a goose whilst walking in a mild-mannered way through a river and was quite traumatized by it. Kona is not a very brave horse to begin with and, to be honest, is somewhat easily traumatized, but still, not very nice of the goose. I said all this and the North Dakotans said, "those are wild geese. Our geese aren't wild. Domesticated geese make very good pets." "Outdoor pets, right?" I asked.
I asked whether it was true that geese mate for life. "Basically," was the response. "What does 'basically' mean? Until a better, younger goose comes along?" They chortled and said, "oh no, that's humans, not geese." Geese, they explained will be faithful until a mate dies or is lost, or something. At which point they "move on." Geese "get over it." Widowed geese can re-marry.
I asked why we don't eat goose eggs. "They are too big," was the answer. "How big?" "As big as seven chicken eggs." That's pretty big. I suggested someone could make an omelet for an entire family with only one goose egg, and wouldn't that be very economically. Maybe diners would like to offer goose egg scrambled eggs, etc. "No," they said, "goose eggs taste horrible." This surprised me coming from such fans of the goose. The reason is that geese, as mentioned above, are naturally very fatty and so their eggs contain vast amounts of lipids that when fried turn into lipid leather. "How about cakes, then" I said. Ah! Apparently the best and highest use of a goose egg is to make a cake -- goose eggs produce fabulously rich and velvety cake batter. The only problem is you need to make a really big cake. I, for one, have never seen a cake recipe that calls for the equivalent of 7 chicken eggs.
Geese lived to be 80 years old. Consider this if you are thinking of getting one as a pet.
None of the "down" things you buy in the average department store or linen store are made of goose down. "Down" pillows and comforters are made either of duck down, chicken down, or unmentionable fakes. Eiderdown is down from a specific kind of duck that lives only in Switzerland. A real goose down comforter costs approximately $1,000. As much as a mattress.
I asked if they would make be a real goose down comforter. "No." What?! They explained that a goose down comforter is only for very cold climates, like North Dakota and Lapland. If you try to sleep under a goose down comforter anywhere else you will sweat so much you will lose 100 percent of your body weight by morning and thus be invisible.
I proposed, instead, a goose down jacket. "No, you'd have to wear literally nothing else at all (due to body melting) which means you could never take the jacket off which means it wouldn't be very useful." Fine.
The North Dakotans did not realize that the Chesapeake Bay was a haven for wild geese. They were fascinated. I told them to read James Michener's Chesapeake, particularly the chapters told from the perspective of the geese.
The farmers confirmed that even domestic geese post a sentry to watch for enemies while everyone else eats.
I discussed the relationship between geese and foxhunting. I.e., geese are to be avoided. Some people string thin wires over their ponds to keep the geese from landing there. I've seen this especially up in the Green Spring Valley. It seems to work.
We turned to virology. They told me the story of how their flock was decimated in 2003 by West Nile Virus. Think about that, folks. "Can a goose really get bitten by a mosquito, what with all that impenetrable down, and all?" Yes, they said, but it's sort of irrelevant. A goose can get bitten by a mosquito on its eyelids. But the burly geese farmers had figured out that West Nile is not transmitted to avians by mosquitoes. They get it from their food supply. Apparently the State Veterinarian of North Dakota does not agree with them but nevertheless, these burly goose men vaccinated their entire flock by putting goose antibodies from their very own flock into the goose drinking water. 100 percent protection, apparently. This avoided them having to give a subcutaneous injection to each goose in the flock -- 100,000 or something. One man -- 100,000 geese. Bummer.
I learned that the Indian virologist hailed from Madras and that his wife hailed from Kenya. "How did you meet?" Ah, well, you see, at Kenyan independence, Kenya "repatriated" all the British to Britain. The Indian merchant families were considered "British" and so were shipped off to London. Both they and Britain were appalled. The Kenyan Indians had never been to England and did not consider themselves British and found it horribly cold and gloomy. The British thought they were freeing themselves of "colonials" and were shocked to find droves of "non-English" people coming back from all over Africa during the 60s. So Britain promptly "repatriated" the Kenyan Indians to India. Another foreign land to the Kenyan Indians but mildly preferable. From India, our virologist's wife made her way to the US for studies, as did he, and they met. Ta daa.
This lead to a conversation about World War I in Africa and how South African was an interesting place to follow the war because half the Afrikaners supported Germany and half of them supported Holland and therefore England. Tres complique.
Turns out the Indian virologist and I know many people in common from the pharmaceutical R&D world. This blew the goose farmers away. They consider their virologist to be a polite man from Madras who lived in Grand Forks and who can talk about antibodies and me to be some Washington lobbyist (which I'm not, of course). Not only did we know people in common but we have even worked on some of the same vaccines. And this was when I brought up Ebola -- "can you treat Ebola?" "Yes, oh yes, we could!" "How would you conduct a clinical trial?" I asked. You can't put people with Ebola on a placebo because they will surely die and there is no standard of care at the moment so basically would be impossible to do a controlled test."Yes, yes, that is indeed our difficulty. Very great difficulty." I told him I would think about it to see if I came up with any ideas.
The geese farmers concluded after all this that I may be "the smartest woman we have ever met." Not sure what that means coming from North Dakotan goose men. And I didn't feel like explaining to them that ornamental knowledge does not necessarily equal intelligence.
I'm sure there was more but that's what I remember at the moment. And you will be pleased to know that these people are all coming to DC again because I got them invited to the Second Annual Swine Flu Conference that is taking place next week at Dulles (an irony, no?). They agreed that the geese can help the people fight the pigs.
My work here is done.